So Tennyson's phrase 'nature red in tooth and claw' does not appear to be God's ideal and certainly did not exist in God's 'very good' creation (Gen 1.31) - which included man.
According to scripture, death (and by implication a carnivorous world) only entered through man's sin and so could not have existed prior to this.
The answer, unsurprisingly, is absolutely none at all. Ham showdown simply illustrated why challenging creationism is so frustratingly futile.
In fact, I’ve been following Ken Ham lately, and some of the stuff being put out by Answers in Genesis (Ken has blocked me on Facebook, FWIW) to see if they’ve had any new arguments.
In a house of cards built by their own hands, they will frequently claim that believing in a universe that is anything more than a few thousand years old is a threat to the entire faith system.
The concept of killing for food is absent from the early world of Genesis.
And it is interesting to note that a 'herbivore existence' and the emphasis on 'no harm' re-appears during the Millennium, when the lion eats straw rather than kills for food (Isa 65.25).
(That includes me.) Bill Nye’s decision to debate Ham at the Creation Museum Tuesday night, then, was a puzzling one.
Nye, “the science guy,” plays by the rules of the scientific method and accepts the fundamental principle of biology: evolution by natural selection.
I suppose it goes like this: The Bible dates the earth = if you can’t trust the Bible on that one point, you can’t trust any of it = all Christian faith hinges on a young earth.
There’s only one, massive, glaring problem with that: The Bible doesn’t date the creation of the Universe.
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For the past several decades, the question of the age of the Earth has been a very divisive one among Christians.
Many people in this latter category affirm the intimate involvement of God in this process of creation.